In episode 184 of our podcast, we talked about two very different people — Pressure Peter and Secure Steven. In this episode, we sit down with Tommy Griffith who was more of a Secure Steven and waited a long time to make the leap and leave his job.
Tommy went from running SEO at PayPal and AirBnB to sitting in an AirBnb rental in Bali, completely unsure about his next steps. We review how he built ClickMinded from a small, local, in-person training course to an online training platform and uncover his successes and failures along the way.
He’s a fascinating and inspiring guy, so this is an interview you definitely don’t want to miss!
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“There’s a natural moat around getting out of the basement and getting out into the real world.” – Tommy – Tweet This!
“It’s much more advantageous to get those users and get a little bit of momentum going and don’t worry about anything else.” – Tommy – Tweet This!
“I give away a lot in the beginning for something that looks more interesting [in the end].” – Tommy – Tweet This!
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